tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post7853537339779213771..comments2024-03-28T08:36:25.416-07:00Comments on Jechidah: Ishtar Rising Week Seven: ! : Really love your peaches wanna shake your treeRarebit Fiendhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09650603980195179414noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-11302583286243946382021-08-08T15:54:44.706-07:002021-08-08T15:54:44.706-07:00Thank you for posting this.Thank you for posting this.Eric Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312033917401203598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-5997551040436425162021-08-07T09:07:25.026-07:002021-08-07T09:07:25.026-07:00This is an excellent chapter. A couple of notes: A...This is an excellent chapter. A couple of notes: Anyone who does not have a copy of "Ishtar Rising" can read this chapter in "Coincidance" and comment on it here. Also, as another textual note, I only have the ebook version of the Hilaritas Press version of "Ishtar," so the page numbers Apuleius cites didn't tell me what to read. I asked about that, and it was explained that I'm to read until the paragraph that starts with "The exact number of people killed in the various witch-hunts, crusades, inquisitions ... "<br /><br />I have been reading the Bible from front to back (something I've never done before, even though I read the New Testament for the first time as a teenager) so all of RAW's comments about the Old Testament are very interesting; I just finished Leviticus, which is horrible, all sorts of anal-patrist capital punishments for "wrong" sex and demands for sacrifice, just as RAW discusses. Looking forward to the Song of Solomon. Cleveland Okie (Tom Jackson)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07810736442596736041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-54071331942147321812021-08-05T20:22:20.508-07:002021-08-05T20:22:20.508-07:00Thanks to Uncle Al I can't read, write or utte...Thanks to Uncle Al I can't read, write or utter the word "succeed" without imagining "suck seed." Rarebit Fiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650603980195179414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-13295917762577701942021-08-05T18:57:50.859-07:002021-08-05T18:57:50.859-07:00An excellent point about energies and physical gen...An excellent point about energies and physical gender. One of my favorite turns of phrase is from John Crowley (no relation): male and female is different in the picture language of myth. <br /><br />I would say that politicians have to be primarily anal or willing to use predominantly anal tactics to "succeed." I guess I'd point to Louis XVI as an oral monarch...and look where that got him. I'd say most oral types that are famous are writers, spiritual leaders or artists. Even then I find a hard time thinking of contemporary figures in the fame game that are truly oral. Alan Moore certainly has strong oral values and Steve Moore was an extremely oral person. But they're not exactly world leaders (if only). Interestingly, George and Ringo strike me as more oral than John or even Paul. Rarebit Fiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650603980195179414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-78001720996782344242021-08-05T09:48:29.835-07:002021-08-05T09:48:29.835-07:00Indeed, Rarebit, the Bible doesn't require evi...Indeed, Rarebit, the Bible doesn't require evidence to get used, misused, abused, or confused.<br /><br />Sometimes physical gender gets conflated with the nomenclature regarding male and female energies, anal and oral or yang and yin as we might say. Margaret Thatcher seemed an anal type of female leader from what little I know. Off the top of my head I can't think of a good example of a more oral type of male leader.Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-25175037081094917362021-08-04T17:09:15.253-07:002021-08-04T17:09:15.253-07:00Well the Bible was written by Jesus so we don'...Well the Bible was written by Jesus so we don't need evidence, Oz.<br /><br />Thank you for this fantastic point. I think it helped me figure out a bit of the mental knot I was tying. I also figure that my reluctance about the idea is an aversion to the notion that matriarchal societies were better. (I also have a lot of problems with the idea that prehistoric means "pure.") Please understand that I am against leaders who are women, but I imagine any strong structural system, certainly based on something as arbitrary as gender, is going to be a shit system.<br /><br />I personally ascribe to the theory that Jehovah was originally Asherah or some female-war deity like her. I don't think that feminine deities are naturally gentle- at least not in my experience. (I believe I reference my attraction to such divinities in a previous post.) Which is another reason I reject the fantastical late-twentieth reinterpretations of Goddesses. Rarebit Fiendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09650603980195179414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-16924918638772449992021-08-04T08:26:44.557-07:002021-08-04T08:26:44.557-07:00There should be a comma after "Wilson seems t...There should be a comma after "Wilson seems to back off," ... <br /> in my comment above, otherwise the intended meaning gets reversed.<br />Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2411697383543828729.post-714233382749437372021-08-04T08:23:08.640-07:002021-08-04T08:23:08.640-07:00The Gardner fragment quotes The Book of the Law. ...The Gardner fragment quotes <i>The Book of the Law</i>. <br /><br /><i>The White Goddess</i> made a strong, favorable impression on me particularly the section on Taliesin. I remember Graves quoting from 12th or 13th Century Bardic poems when presenting that.<br /><br />The book <i>Inanna of the Largest Heart: Poems of the Sumerian High Priestess Enheduanna</i> documents the female influence in Ancient Sumer and presents evidence to support it. Wilson seems to back off taking a cautious and skeptical view of a widespread pre-historical Goddess dominant age others have postulated.<br /><br />As far as I know, no one has found a shred of convincing historical evidence to verify anything at all in the Bible, New or Old Testaments. That doesn't stop it from functioning as history for millions of people. That also doesn't necessarily make it pure fiction. No evidence has been found that a single individual named Homer wrote the works credited to him. We still discuss him "as if" he existed despite no verifying evidence. <br /><br />“Homer is a foundation myth, not a man nor of the natural world, but of the way of thinking by which the Greeks defined themselves, the frame of mind which made them who they were ..." from <i>Why Homer Matters</i> by Nicolson. The same reasoning can get applied to the pre-historical Age of Isis.Oz Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06061222169144560970noreply@blogger.com